From feed@maroon.tc.umn.eduSun Aug 13 14:56:41 1995 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 16:16:34 -0500 From: fEEd To: CUJWINN@aol.com, analogue@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: waldorf m.wave vs mks80? At 02:17 PM 8/13/95 -0400, CUJWINN@aol.com wrote: >can anyone offer an opinion on these two machines,against each >other? Having used both quite a bit (I own a uWave+programmer and have used a mks80+programmer quite a bit) I would say DEFINITELY get the uWave. Not only is the MIDI spec (CC wise not sysexwise so much) much more thorough on the uWave (which is important to some people) but the uWave's sound generation capabilities far exceed the standard analog guts of the mks80. Not only does the uWave do a great 8 voice analog imitation (with multiple outputs to boot), but its Wavetable scanning gives it expressiveness and power the mks80 cannot even come close to. Plus Waldorf is still around and still improving the uWave's capabilities. v.2.0 of the uWave OS gave it multi-faceted capabilities touched by very few single synths. Without getting into to much detail, all in all it is no contest. uWave, hands down. Very few rackmount synths come close to those little beauties IMHO. Can you tell I like uWaves? ;> If you have any specific questions, drop me a line..... Rob http://www.umn.edu/nlhome/m211/feed/ (under perpetual construction) "The patch in fig. 2-23 gives the sound of a cracking whip. (Why don't you try to synthesize some screams to go along with it?)" - Roland Model 104 Sequencer Manual From cdmaster@netcom.comMon Aug 14 09:56:17 1995 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: MACHINE MEDIA To: CUJWINN@aol.com Cc: analogue@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: waldorf m.wave vs mks80? > hello,it's jeff.my friend and i both own mks80s and he has been trying to > locate a microwave for about a year and ahalf now.well i found one,used but > the guy is asking around 1100 dollars.the seller of the microwave has > expressed some interest inmy friends mks80.i looked to the music machines > archive and really didnt get too much info about the microwave,especially > stacked against the mks80.my friend is really lusting after this First off, I'd say it's apples and oranges. If you are talking prices, I think I got my MKS-80 for $975 over a year ago. I have seen them go for as high as $1400, without the programmer. If he has the programmer (I don't) and makes this trade, he will lose alot of twiddlation. Then again $1100 is not a bad price for a microwave, I've seen alot higher. What software version is it?? Does it have auto-defrost?? I love my MKS-80. There is an old Japanese proverb, "A fool and his MKS are soon parted." :) I don't own a Waldorf Microwave (but I do have a JCPenney microwave, maybe I should MIDI all my kitchen appliances :) but I have heard them. To me, they sound a bit cold and digital. Otoh, the MKS-80 sounds nice and warm. Of course, the programming capabilities and architechure are totally different. If he wants a big red knob, perhaps he should look into some Fischer-Price gear :) The MKS-80 says "Roland SUPER JUPITER" right across the front. What more could you possibly want from life?? :) PEACE OUT :) MARK