From vance@netcom.com Tue Feb 20 08:46:24 1996 20 Feb 96 11:46:08 +0500 19 Feb 96 23:15:25 +0500 id TAA25437; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:35:52 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:35:52 -0800 From: vance@netcom.com (Vance Gloster) Cc: analogue@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Oberheim thing Second there was this Oberheim box. CAlled a "SuperDX".. it's a drum machine right? Sure looked like one. Big and ugly. (about 18"wide, 12"deep, 6"high.. ) and ugly, too. Also, it was ugly. But how does it sound? Is it worth picking up or is it not so mentionable as an instrument? The tag was $299 but it looked easily 5 years old (the tag) so I bet I could get it real cheap.. The owner wasn't knowledgeable at all. :) Lemme know on either or both.. tanx. I used to have the non-Super DX. Not analog. Early grunge digital (8-bit). I think the Super version had a couple of extra drums. No MIDI, but does accept and generate 12 cpqn or 24 cpqn (I forget which) analog sequencer clocks. Not the least bit trendy so you should be able to get it cheap (maybe real cheap). If someone creative gets ahold of one and does something cool with it there may be a big rush for them. But nothing like that is going on now. It has a cool "swing" feature that allows you to control the feel of shuffle-based stuff. Good for that beat that all the most lame rap had a few years ago (i.e. Parents Just Don't Understand). Also I thought the toms sounded good when you tuned them way down low. Sort of the anti-909 sound. You can swap the EPROMs, so if you get something that can burn them (I think the Simmons gizmo will do it) you can make it sound like an 8-bit approximation of anything you want. -Vance Gloster vance@netcom.com From CJones@sni.co.uk Tue Feb 20 08:56:56 1996 20 Feb 96 11:56:48 +0500 20 Feb 96 09:59:20 +0500 id <312A503D@squidgy.sni.co.uk>; Tue, 20 Feb 96 14:50:37 PST From: Clive Jones Subject: RE: Oberheim thing Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 14:48:00 PST Encoding: 41 TEXT Hi Chaps >> I used to have the non-Super DX. Not analog. Early grunge digital >> (8-bit). I think the Super version had a couple of extra drums. No >Small clarification- there isn't a Super DX, but there was an add-on for >the DX called the Stretch. This unit added four more voices (mine has >some industrial kick, a neat big snare, tambourine, and ride cymbals...), >and gave the DX MIDI out, which I think is only to output MIDI clock. Absolutely correct - 10 points! >> sound. You can swap the EPROMs, so if you get something that can burn >> them (I think the Simmons gizmo will do it) you can make it sound like >The Simmons prommer doesn't work... i've tried it. Someone on the list >told me that the Oberheim proms are a different sort of encoding than the >Simmons units. Apparently the LinnDrum uses the same type of encoding. >Prommer anyone? Absolutely correct again - 10 points. DX and DMX EPROMs are interchangable with the Linndrum MK1, Oberheim use the COMDAC 8 bit sample algorithm and as you quite rightly state do not match Simmons EPROM algorithm. Tom Butcher scores a maximium of 20 points - well done my dear fellow!!!! Clive ////////////////////// / / ...and on the 8th day /01344 850213 Work / God made Synthesizers /01344 850209/291 Fax/ ...and God was called /01628 602106 Home / ' Tom Oberheim ' //////////////////////