From nobrand@teleport.comSat Jan 28 13:12:20 1995 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 10:26:11 -0800 From: Brian Coates To: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Moog mg1 >Can anyone give me any info on this little beast? I know that it's >probably the cheapest Moog ever made, a Rogue without pitchbend, but I >then I don't know anything about the Rogue. Does it have an external >input? How many oscillators does it have? Is the filter as nice as the >other Moogs? > >Any info passed this way would be much appreciated. > >Lee WOW! What a strange night!! Looking at my mail, and reading this after just having snuck my freshly purchased MG-1 in the door past my wife and upstairs!! I must say, I've been waiting for this for quite some time. A friend of mine offered to GIVE me one, and the deal is still on, just living in different states causes a certain inconvenience.. Anyway, I found one at a pawn shop today(our shops usually never have anything), and the next thing I remember, I was driving away happier than a few minutes earlier. The specs. A two oscillator synth, each osc. has separate octave controls, -2, -1, 0 and -1, 0, +1, but in my opinion, the -2 setting is right about 0. Not great *deep* bass. You can sync osc 2 to osc 1, and osc 2 is detunable(yay!). The wave forms avail. for each osc are saw and square, only selectable. It's just one or the other, unlike the 101. Modulation is wave selectable, tri, sq, random, and routable to filter cutoff, and osc's.. It has a simple AD generator, with a sustain in/out switch, and is routable to filter cutoff and hardwired to VCA. bwwwooOOOOOoooowwwwwmm. Cool filter, although I can't really compare it to other Moog stuff, since I've never owned other Moogs. Self oscillating, basic control. Cutoff, Res, Env amt.. and keyboard tracking at 0, 1/2, or full. I like it. You can mix osc 1, osc 2, noise, 'bell sound', and polyphony. The bell sound might be a ring mod sort of thing, I'm not sure, yet. The polyphony is strange.. you can bring the vol up on this to mix with the synth sound. I think it's like a top octave sort of thing, 'cause you can play every note in all 3 octaves at once! Luckily, this mix stage is pre-filter, so it gets effected, too. Turn off the two oscillators, and you get interesting organ sounds. CV/Trigger inputs, Two RCA outs, and two RCA ins. I didn't fuss with it much, but I couldn't hear anything I put in the ins, even while playing. Hmmm. The whole thing is layed out strangely, you have to go back and forth on the panel to tweak things, it's not simply left to right osc->filter->VCA like the 101, and I guess since the MG-1 was manufactured by Moog for the Tandy Corp., all the words are changed i.e. contour=envelope, tone source=oscillator, peak emphasis=resonance, things like that. I must admit, yes, it's stupid, but I have a hard time getting past the 'Realistic' label screened on the front, but I'm getting over it. Does anyone think I could get manuals from Tandy? And how would I use this with my MC-202? I assume I'd need a Gate to Trigger Converter? At what voltages? And is it standard 1v/octave? Anyway, I'm out of breath. Brian ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Searching through manuals for silly instructions. From sngruhl@faui01.informatik.uni-erlangen.deThu Apr 13 10:58:10 1995 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:15:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Stefan Gruhl (CIP 92)" To: analogue@hyperreal.com Subject: realistic mg-1 > > i also own a realistic mg-1.... could you please help me out.... > > what can i plug into the PITCH input? > what can i plug into the trigger input? Looks like I am becoming the concertmate guru :-) You do just the same to them as to every "CV/Gate" input. Don't get confused about the naming. Pitch is the CV (control voltage) that controlls the pitch. Obvious ? Trigger is the moog way to tell the synth, when a key is pressed. If you have a roland midi->CV converter, this box (like a kenton) will send a gate signal, instead of a moog S-trig signal. This way it is easily converted, as mentioned often enough on AH. The easiest way is to use only one transistor and a resistor. I soldered both on the input ears inside my MG1. Now the moog behaves like roland to the world outside. I haven't the building rules in mind, but you should eaily find them in the archives. CU steve -- * real electronic composers don't like their music be restricted * * to the physical limitations of the human hand - AH - a great list * * Stefan Gruhl * sngruhl@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de * * Monthly bonus sig: ************************************************ * "The course of true SOUND never did run smooth" * * freely taken from Midsummernights dream by Willy S. * ********************************************************************* *