From majortom@muc.de Wed Jul 24 12:28:49 1996 24 Jul 96 15:28:44 +0500 24 Jul 96 15:28:05 +0500 Comments: Authenticated sender is 23 Jul 96 20:54:16 +0500 From: majortom@muc.de (Michael Wesemann) Subject: Re: Obie Prommer Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:35:54 +0200 Organization: mw References: <199607231251.FAA02872@taz.hyperreal.com> From: "Manuel J. Santos" <73552.2205@CompuServe.COM> >Could someone please explain the basis of this machine... In short the OB Prommer is a Sampler to create custom sounds for old EPROM based drum machines. The sampled sound can be directly burnt on to an EPROM. It's 8 Bit and has different sample rates corresponding to those used in the drum machines. It has midi which can be used to load and dump samples via sysex or midi sample dump (which doesn't quite work on mine due to some strange format). You can even play the sample via midi, which makes it kind of a monophonic sampler. Some basic edit options are also included like reverse, ringmod or digital bit manipulation. Burning sounds on to eproms an then installing them in the machine is a very hardware orientated kind of sampling - I love it :-) The sounds normally are very good when played back in the drum machine. The nice thing is you never know what it will sound like until you hear the finished eprom. This usually differs quite a bit from the sound the Prommer plays back because the drum machines have different sound manipulating circuitery for every sound like lpf, hpf etc. so the results can be quite surprising. ___________________________________________________________________ (I could be wrong) From cord@lance.colostate.edu Tue Feb 20 09:12:22 1996 20 Feb 96 12:12:14 +0500 20 Feb 96 12:04:02 +0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 09:24:21 PST From: "Cord Mueller" Subject: RE: Oberheim thing "'analogue@hyperreal.com'" >>> sound. You can swap the EPROMs, so if you get something that can burn >>> them (I think the Simmons gizmo will do it) you can make it sound like > >>The Simmons prommer doesn't work... i've tried it. Someone on the list >>told me that the Oberheim proms are a different sort of encoding than >the >>Simmons units. Apparently the LinnDrum uses the same type of encoding. > >>Prommer anyone? Prommer works with Oberheim DX & DMX, Sequential Drumtrax, Linn drum (mk1, II), Simmons (as far as I could test my simmons pad is working fine). I couldn't test the MXR drumcomputer and others. Anyway for the simmons chip I had to choose another option (I don't know if it was linear or something else). How many points I get now?? Cord From roderick@net-link.net Thu Feb 22 09:00:27 1996 22 Feb 96 12:00:10 +0500 20 Feb 96 20:01:25 +0500 id <01BAFFC0.B422E760@p1-28.net-link.net>; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:24:42 -0500 From: "Roderick W. MacQuarrie" Cc: "analogue@hyperreal.com" Subject: RE: Oberheim thing Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:24:37 -0500 Tom Butcher[SMTP:bit@hyperreal.com] wrote: > >> I used to have the non-Super DX. Not analog. Early grunge digital >> (8-bit). I think the Super version had a couple of extra drums. No > >Small clarification- there isn't a Super DX, but there was an add-on = for=20 >the DX called the Stretch. This unit added four more voices (mine has=20 >some industrial kick, a neat big snare, tambourine, and ride = cymbals...),=20 >and gave the DX MIDI out, which I think is only to output MIDI clock. > >> sound. You can swap the EPROMs, so if you get something that can = burn >> them (I think the Simmons gizmo will do it) you can make it sound = like > >The Simmons prommer doesn't work... i've tried it. Someone on the list = >told me that the Oberheim proms are a different sort of encoding than = the=20 >Simmons units. Apparently the LinnDrum uses the same type of encoding. = =20 >Prommer anyone? > >Tom Butcher [bit@hyperreal.com] >Orbitrecords [412.392.1505] > >|| orbitrecords information superlink >|| http://hyperreal.com/music/labels/orbitrecords/ > > Yes the Prommer will work with the DX, DMX, LINN 9000, LinnDrum, = DrumTraks, Simmons SDS-1, Simmons SDS-9...But Cord probably know more of = the technical details...I have the manual so I can hunt the info = down...And since this is related to my previous post, where can you buy = older chips for the LinnDrums, DX's etc? From cord@lance.colostate.edu Tue Feb 20 09:12:22 1996 20 Feb 96 12:12:14 +0500 20 Feb 96 12:04:02 +0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 09:24:21 PST From: "Cord Mueller" Subject: RE: Oberheim thing "'analogue@hyperreal.com'" >>> sound. You can swap the EPROMs, so if you get something that can burn >>> them (I think the Simmons gizmo will do it) you can make it sound like > >>The Simmons prommer doesn't work... i've tried it. Someone on the list >>told me that the Oberheim proms are a different sort of encoding than >the >>Simmons units. Apparently the LinnDrum uses the same type of encoding. > >>Prommer anyone? Prommer works with Oberheim DX & DMX, Sequential Drumtrax, Linn drum (mk1, II), Simmons (as far as I could test my simmons pad is working fine). I couldn't test the MXR drumcomputer and others. Anyway for the simmons chip I had to choose another option (I don't know if it was linear or something else). How many points I get now?? Cord From majortom@muc.de Wed Jul 24 12:28:49 1996 24 Jul 96 15:28:44 +0500 24 Jul 96 15:28:05 +0500 Comments: Authenticated sender is 23 Jul 96 20:54:16 +0500 From: majortom@muc.de (Michael Wesemann) Subject: Re: Obie Prommer Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 02:35:54 +0200 Organization: mw References: <199607231251.FAA02872@taz.hyperreal.com> From: "Manuel J. Santos" <73552.2205@CompuServe.COM> >Could someone please explain the basis of this machine... In short the OB Prommer is a Sampler to create custom sounds for old EPROM based drum machines. The sampled sound can be directly burnt on to an EPROM. It's 8 Bit and has different sample rates corresponding to those used in the drum machines. It has midi which can be used to load and dump samples via sysex or midi sample dump (which doesn't quite work on mine due to some strange format). You can even play the sample via midi, which makes it kind of a monophonic sampler. Some basic edit options are also included like reverse, ringmod or digital bit manipulation. Burning sounds on to eproms an then installing them in the machine is a very hardware orientated kind of sampling - I love it :-) The sounds normally are very good when played back in the drum machine. The nice thing is you never know what it will sound like until you hear the finished eprom. This usually differs quite a bit from the sound the Prommer plays back because the drum machines have different sound manipulating circuitery for every sound like lpf, hpf etc. so the results can be quite surprising. ___________________________________________________________________ (I could be wrong) From kent@inav.net Tue May 7 10:55:47 1996 From: kent@inav.net Date: Tue, 7 May 96 13:55:44 -0400 7 May 96 13:55:45 +0500 3 May 96 13:34:07 +0500 .net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA00013; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:02:23 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 12:02:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Kent Williams electronica list Subject: attention prommer users! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 If you're one of those guys whose got an oberheim prommer or the simmons prommer, a problem you'll often have is finding EPROMS the right size. Alltronics (408) 943-9773 Has every size EPROM from 2708 up to 27C010 (which is 1 megabit, I believe) Most of the prom drum machines use 2732's, I believe. 2732's run .99 a piece. The catch? You have to have a UV lamp and erase them. But you need that anyway right? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Kent Williams kent@inav.net (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)