Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Cary Roberts To: Analogue Heaven Subject: [AH] Paul Schreiber's "Moog" This came from DIY. Figured it belonged in the archives. Forwarded message: _________________________________________________________________ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Schreiber To: inman@interpath.com, synth-diy@mailhost.bpa.nl Sender: owner-synth-diy@mailhost.bpa.nl Subject: Re: Paul's "Moog" >Paul S. designed the Radio Shack Moog! I'll be damned. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Since this pops up every now and then, and I'm taking a break bagging up 7,620 resistors, here is the "story". Radio Shack has no engineering. Rather, that falls (er...'fell') under TSD (Tandy Systems Design). Also, twice a year Radio Shack holds a private version of COMDEX/CES, just for them! Vendors line up 50 deep and present their wares. Back then (early '80s) about 40% of gear in a Radio Shack was bought 'outside'. Most electronics was made in a Korean factory that Tandy owned a majority share called EnCal (EnCal made all of Pioneer's and Alpine's car stereos there). So, during one of these mini-trade shows who is on the presentation list (which TSD got in advance) but a one 'Dr. D. Luce'. Well, when I saw Mr. PolyMoog on the list I had to see this. So sure enough here he wanders in with a hand-made small synth. He demos it. Bernie Appel, the #1 decision maker (er...the *ONLY* decision maker of what went in the store or not) had this type of conversation (I am giving not exact, but the general idea. It was 16-17 years ago!) BA: What the f*** is that piece of s***? (BA enjoyed treating all new vendors this way. This was his equivalent of "Hello.") DDL: It's a music synthesizer prototype. [Proceeds on a 3 minute demo. You had 5 minutes to present. Period!!] BA: (interested, but certainly not going to show it to the Yankee geek) How the hell do you plug it in? DDL points out the 1/4" jack. BA: Where in the holy hell, in my store (they were always referred to as "my stores") does that thing go? Up my ass? See, RS had not a single piece of gear that had 1/4" jacks! All RCA. BA knew this. DDL at this point looks like he's gonna puke. He's quivering & sweating like a whore in church (sorry, that's another BA expression!) BA: Play me a tune. [DDL one-fingers a classical thingy.] BA: That damn thing busted? What's with this 1 finger shit? [DDL explains about monophonic blah blah blah.] BA turns to me. BA: You know what the hell he's talking about? Me: (thinking this is a trick question) Err...yeah. BA to DDL: We'll look at it. NEXT!!!! So began the Luce/Schreiber effort. What he had was the boards out of a Minimoog, no A440 osc, no noise, in a box. So, I got handed that, designed the MG-1 version (added the organ stuff BECAUSE BA was convinced that typical RS customers wanted more than 1 note). Added RCA jacks, ring mod do-dad. Then, had to specify parts that Moog never had to use: cheapo pots. I'll admit it: CHEAPO. They were ALPS and I think we paid (back then) about 23 cents apiece. That is because the RS gross profit margin was an unheard of 63% (the average of ALL the Forture 500 is like 8%) and lastly, I spent about 3 weeks on just the panel layout and color scheme & wrote the Owner's Manual along with, oddly enough, Steve Leininger who designed the TRS-80. He played a Vox in a jazz band and BA wanted his opinion as well. Luce and I went back & forth about 5 months until they delivered the "pre-production" units. Moog made them, Tandy supplied most of the parts (we had a company in Japan that bought parts and resold them to Tandy. One day I'll tell my funny modem capacitor story.) So, the story was: a) Moog presented the original idea to RS b) They dumped it on me. I had to make it "Radio Shack compliant". Which meant a re-design. Used the 3046 + Tel Labs tempco for the VCO. More Electronotes than Moog! Moog ladder filter, 3080 VCA. Prototype had mod wheel; *PUNT!*. Cost like $3. Get real. c) Moog built it. d) Tandy had 18 months exclusive. Moog then made the Rogue which is my design without the organ/ring mod, wheels back on. e) No, I didn't get a free MG-1 or a Rogue. f) No, I didn't get alot of money. At that time I was making about $21,500/yr. Final note: NO!!! I DID NOT pick that stupid black felt that lays over the sliders, then turns to tar. That was Luce's deal. But, I DID get Luce to send me *every* piece of Moog literature at the time: still have it! Paul Schreiber Synthesis Technology