From legion@dscmail.com Mon Aug 8 14:49:35 1994 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:42:00 -0640 From: Legion To: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Analog Delays... Don't know how many people know this exists but I have an Ibanez AD202 (I believe that's the model #) . This was made in the early 80's I believe is two rack spaces and has inputs for line/mic as well as instrumnet and two outputs (clean and wet). It is my Favorite processor of anything I have ever used. The main effects are: Delay - About 1 sec I think Doubling Flange Chorus The controls are all knobs. From Left to right: Input level for each input Delay Time Delay Speed Depth Regeneration Mix (wet/dry signal) This is a bit noisy but has the most lush and beautiful chorus and bizarre flange FX around. You can change the delay time and speed in real time just by tweaking the knob making for some incredible sweeps and dips in the sound. I've used it on vocals, Guitar, drum machines, samples, etc. with great success at sculpting the exact sound I wanted (something I still have trouble with on those multiple screen/scroll units of today) I got mine for free while helping someone move, "Hey this makes weird sounds and is too noisy for me, I figured it was right up your alley..." and have never seen another one. I got it repaired twice (input/output connections as a bit delicate) and have used it live a couple times too. Plus all the writing on the front pannels glows in the dark. The ultimate in cool analog FX IMHO. If you have one you don't want please let me know. If you see one, buy it! You'll be happy ever after. From ceres@SIRIUS.COMTue Mar 14 11:22:54 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 11:16:05 -0800 From: "Douglas B. Pearson" To: analogue@hyperreal.com Subject: Analog Delays (was re: Pawn Shopping (again)) On Mon, 13 Mar 1995, Legion wrote: >On Mon, 13 Mar 1995, Squishy wrote: > >> I came across a few items while pawn shopping today. I was >> wondering if anyone can shed some light on the following units. >> >> Ibanez Analog Delay AD202 >> Yamaha Analog Delay E1005 > >OH GOD!!!!! Sorry I get carried away sometimes. This is my *favorite* >piece of gear. I've made huge wonderful industrial noises and mountains >of warm flowing chroused bass, violent jabbing flanged drums and >unrecognizable vox with this unit and this unit alone in realtime. It is >totally unknown and I will extoll its virtues until someone recognizes how >vastly underrated the old Ibanez analog FX gear really is. >Seriously though, this is the only delay I have ever used that fedback >on itself and can be manipulated in realtime in such a bizarre way. I catch >something in the regen and then it grows until it blows your speakers. Trim >the delay time to a chirp and listen to it grow all over again. My neighbors >used to call this the vaccum cleaner song (right before they called the >cops). IMO, this is a >pretty good< analog delay, but >>far<< from the best I've ever heard. My biggest problem with it (which many folks probably won't care about) is the LFO modulator, which is one of my top requirements in a rack-size analog delay (if you're on a budget, an audio generator/oscillator run through a good analog delay makes a great synth substitute, as long as you don't care about lacking a keyboard). It doesn't have enough depth, and the frequency control is too sensitive at the higher end (I should probably swap the exponential pot for a linear one to see if that helps..) of the freq range, meaning that you can't do subtle manipulations of the modulation frequency. I had a Yamaha delay (not the E1005, but a similar model, I think, maybe a 1001 or 1002?) that was much better on both accounts, but got ripped off last spring along with my Prophet 600 (s/n 4241, if you happen to run across it...). I'd really like to replace the delay, if anyone's got one for sale. While the feedback noise on the AD202 is fairly adequate, for sheer monstrosity, it doesn't match the DOD Performer 585 pedal with it's 15v DC supply - >lots< of headroom ... although I have blown an amp with it. There's also an old Roland unit (DM-1000, I think?) whose feedback capability is quite amazing. >It's a wonderfully noisy and hissy and warm and glowing unit. Not for >everyone I guess but truly with a personality of it's own. I've been in >search of a second one for seven years as a backup (I used mine live >three times, twice it broke). If anyone reading this doesn't like it pass >on info to someone who can really appreciate it. I guess I need to experiment with it some more. I've made some pretty strange noises by setting up an analog delay to feed back on itself, and using that signal as the input to more series-connected analog delays - with a setup like that, you almost don't need a synthesizer (utter blasphemy). >BTw I have no idea how much they go for. I got found mine while helping >my engineer move apartments... I paid $80 for mine at Starving Musician. -Doug