From palefox@u.washington.edu Mon May 24 22:57:07 1993 Received: from hardy.u.washington.edu by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA17706; Mon, 24 May 93 22:57:06 -0400 Received: by hardy.u.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA10068; Mon, 24 May 93 19:57:01 -0700 Sender: palefox@hardy.u.washington.edu Date: Mon, 24 May 1993 19:51:11 -0700 (PDT) From: INNER STEREO Subject: Re: 909 Kick Drum Processing To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, INNER STEREO Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1745002103-738298620:#9701" Status: OR --0-1745002103-738298620:#9701 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii I've often wondered how mixers handle something like that. I've used cheapo radio shack pre-amps for a similar effect and they seem to like it, but that's rat-shack for ya! CUT KHERE:----------------------------------------------------------------- <> Zombie Viral Mechanoid /\ ---------------------- /)(\ /....\ palefox@u.washington.edu /.~ ~.\ \.x x./ \ .. / _vv_ ^^ \/ --0-1745002103-738298620:#9701 Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; name="NComm.scroll" Content-ID: Content-Description: Take the pre-gain of the mixer and shove it far right, cranking up the 909's output. Volia, insta-distoreted-909-storm-rave-kick-drum.. turn down the main knob/fader for that channel and remove some of the low end. the stupid bass-heavy rave speakers will take care of the rest --0-1745002103-738298620:#9701-- From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Mon May 24 22:36:18 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA17074; Mon, 24 May 93 22:35:35 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from SILVER.LCS.MIT.EDU by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA17069; Mon, 24 May 93 22:35:34 -0400 Received: by silver.lcs.mit.edu id AA02318; Mon, 24 May 93 22:35:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 May 93 22:35:22 -0400 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (in a manner of speaking) Message-Id: <9305250235.AA02318@silver.lcs.mit.edu> To: DJESRANI@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU, analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: 909 Kick Drum Processing Status: OR Take the pre-gain of the mixer and shove it far right, cranking up the 909's output. Volia, insta-distoreted-909-storm-rave-kick-drum.. turn down the main knob/fader for that channel and remove some of the low end. the stupid bass-heavy rave speakers will take care of the rest -john From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Mon May 24 21:17:29 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA14831; Mon, 24 May 93 21:17:08 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from PO2.ANDREW.CMU.EDU by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA14826; Mon, 24 May 93 21:17:05 -0400 Received: by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu; Mon, 24 May 93 21:17:01 EDT Received: via switchmail; Mon, 24 May 1993 21:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 24 May 1993 21:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 24 May 1993 21:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.0.1.23.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Mon, 24 May 1993 21:16:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 May 1993 21:16:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Simon Peter Gatrall To: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: 909 Kick Drum Processing Cc: In-Reply-To: <01GYKBFF088Y8WYFM1@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU> Status: OR Excerpts from internet.analogue: 24-May-93 909 Kick Drum Processing by DJESRANI@CENTER.COLGATE. > Basically, I want to know what the most popular methods are for processing >the 909 kick drum (in terms of dance music). I've heard an incredibly wide >range of sounds - all using the 909 kick - everything from a very thin soun- >ding bass drum, to a thundering, speaker-killing house kick (ie. Strictly >Rhythm/DJ Pierre) - to a strange almost zap-ish type of kick. A lot of hardcore records use a guitar distortion pedal to thicken things up. The 909 has a couple of knobs on it for each sound, so some of the variation comes from the 909 itself. Of course those of us with samples of the '909' only get a snap shot of what it can do. > What's a good way to make the bass kick without over-saturating the tape >with low-end? How do you achieve good seperation, so that the kick >stands out nicely, and does its thing - without messing up the rest of >the mix? What does compression do to drums? Should I drop $230 on an >Aphex Aural Exciter (C2 - w/'Big Bottom')? I want an Aural Exciter just so I can have 'overhang' and 'girth' knobs. How can you loose? I forget, do those knobs go up to 11? -s!mon From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Mon May 24 19:01:08 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA10118; Mon, 24 May 93 18:58:41 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from colgate.edu by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA10113; Mon, 24 May 93 18:58:39 -0400 Received: from CENTER.COLGATE.EDU by CENTER.COLGATE.EDU (PMDF #3157 ) id <01GYKBFF088W8WYFM1@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU>; Mon, 24 May 1993 19:02:12 EDT Date: 24 May 1993 19:02:12 -0400 (EDT) From: DJESRANI@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: 909 Kick Drum Processing To: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-Id: <01GYKBFF088Y8WYFM1@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR Basically, I want to know what the most popular methods are for processing the 909 kick drum (in terms of dance music). I've heard an incredibly wide range of sounds - all using the 909 kick - everything from a very thin soun- ding bass drum, to a thundering, speaker-killing house kick (ie. Strictly Rhythm/DJ Pierre) - to a strange almost zap-ish type of kick. What's a good way to make the bass kick without over-saturating the tape with low-end? How do you achieve good seperation, so that the kick stands out nicely, and does its thing - without messing up the rest of the mix? What does compression do to drums? Should I drop $230 on an Aphex Aural Exciter (C2 - w/'Big Bottom')? Thanks in advance for the advice! Darshan --Boundary (ID AiKnr5aKep1JaCLCnLwagA)--