From ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Tue Jul 23 08:52:43 1996 23 Jul 96 11:52:41 +0500 23 Jul 96 01:52:22 +0500 id BAA00486; Tue, 23 Jul 1996 01:32:31 -0400 (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 1f463ac0; Tue, 23 Jul 96 01:31:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 23:05:56 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: Re[2]: Verrry Specific TR707 Midi question... Cc: electronica@noether.ex.ac.uk, analogue@hyperreal.com Content-Description: cc:Mail note part On 7/22/96, DJMaytag wrote: >At 01:24 AM 7/20/96 -0400, David Talento wrote: >> >> >>Forgive the crosspost but there are probably as many or more 707 users >>on AH than Electronica... >> >>Here's a simple thing that has me totally stumped. >> >>The 707 has the 16 digit lighted steps and buttons like the TSQ1000 and most >>of the X0X stuff. If I could use the 707 as a controller to run my RY30, >>sampler or other midi drum modules I would be in heaven. X0X ease and >>programability for funky live use; XD5 or RY sounds. that's a *nice* combo. >> >>The problem is I don't think I can get the 707 to transmit note data in >>pattern mode. The manual is kinda crypic and confusing as well on how to >>assign a midi note to a sound but i think I have that. Yet when I hit a >>sound that is mapped to the same note on both machines (35 or low "C" for >>example) there is nothing on my ry30. Every combo of setting the 707 up >>to send midi notes per voice (ie: bass drum on note 35 playing bass drum >>on note 35) has failed. >> >>There is a very confusing bit in the manual about toggling between >>internal voice mode and key message transmit mode but I can't figure it out >>to get it to do what i need. (page 46 if it matters) > >>I was hoping I could just plug it in and go to town but so far it's a no >>go. Can this be done at all? Shouldn't the 707 send a midi signal just by >>hitting one of the pads on the front? Am I dreaming? >i've mentioned this a couple of times in the past, but i do know for a fact >that the 909 and 505 both transmit notes over midi. i would imagine that the >707 would as well, but i can't say for sure. try the archives. >mitch >djmaytag@terracom.net Since I got rid of my TR707 *and* now own an RY30, here's some text from the article "Roland TR707: Drum Machine or Sequencer", EM, Jul 88 (hope it's clearer, 'cause I don't have the manual either): "The most difficult thing about using the TR-707 this way is programming the notes you want to play the synthesizer. When your music is composed, arranged and ready to record, first translate the notesinto MIDI note numbers. Next, enter each note of the sequence individually into the TR-707 by hitting the drum that corresponds to that note....Build patterns and combine them into tracks, just as if yiu were programming a drum part...To feed MIDI note data from the TR-707 to your synth, patch a MIDI cable from the TR-707's MIDI Out to the synthesizer's MIDI In and select the track or pattern (i.e. the sequence you just programmed) to send to the synthesizer. Set the TR-707 to the same MIDI channel as that of the synthesizer, and follow these three steps, in order, to program the 707 for MIDI Transmit Mode #2: 1. Enter Track Play Mode with the track not running. 2. While holding the Shift key down, push the MIDI Channel button, release it, and, still holding down the shift key, press the Instrument Guide button. This puts the TR-707 into MIDI Transmit Mode #1; we still need to get to MIDI Transmit Mode #2, though. 3. Once again, hold down the Shift key and press the MIDI Channel button and release it, but this time, while still holding down the Shift key, press the Last Step button. Now the TR-707 is in MIDI Transmit Mode #2. Press the Start key and notes should start sounding the synthesizer." Note: One of the problems with using the TR-707 in this way is note length, unless you plan for triggered notes to be short too. "When you program the synth sounds that you want to sequence with your TR-707, remember the total time of all the envelope generator stages up to (but not including) the release stage can be no longer than the sound on the drum machine." Hope that helped... peace... Doug