From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Wed Apr 28 12:27:35 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA09943; Wed, 28 Apr 93 12:26:05 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from convex.convex.com by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA09868; Wed, 28 Apr 93 12:24:31 -0400 Received: from convexw.convex.com by convex.convex.com (5.64/1.35) id AA01299; Wed, 28 Apr 93 11:19:20 -0500 Received: by convexw.convex.com (5.64/1.28) id AA04176; Wed, 28 Apr 93 09:13:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 09:13:44 -0700 From: ssanders@convexw.convex.com (Steve Sanders) Message-Id: <9304281613.AA04176@convexw.convex.com> To: acid23@uclink.berkeley.edu, bryanc@stargate.jpl.nasa.gov Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs Cc: GRAHAME@sask.usask.ca, analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu Status: OR >Seth Joshua Horvitz writes: > >I've heard of something called a "midi ball" being used by local boys >TASTIBOX during their live shows. I guess it's something which gets >thrown out into the audience and has some control over the equipment, so >that the audience actually has something to do with the music being >produced. Maybe we could get one of these at a rave. Anyone know more >about it? I saw D'Cuckoo here in San Francisco last Thursday and they used something I'd call a "midi ball" for lack of a better term. It was a clear plastic ball about 4 feet in diameter. You could see a black piece of hardware in the center of it that I assume was some kind of motion sensor. They threw it out in the audience and when the crowd hit it, it triggered speech samples, sound Fx, etc. It really got the crowd going. Steve Sanders ssanders@convex.com From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Wed Apr 28 00:14:57 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA17856; Wed, 28 Apr 93 00:13:12 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from uclink.Berkeley.EDU by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA17848; Wed, 28 Apr 93 00:13:10 -0400 Received: by uclink.berkeley.edu (5.64/1.33(web)) id AA02028; Tue, 27 Apr 93 21:13:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 21:08:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Seth Joshua Horvitz Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs To: Bryan Campbell Cc: GRAHAME@sask.usask.ca, analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu In-Reply-To: <9304271711.AA00263@stargate.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I've heard of something called a "midi ball" being used by local boys TASTIBOX during their live shows. I guess it's something which gets thrown out into the audience and has some control over the equipment, so that the audience actually has something to do with the music being produced. Maybe we could get one of these at a rave. Anyone know more about it? -SETH/MescalinaanilacseM\HTES- /////////{{{{{{{{(((((((((([[[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]])))))))))))}}}}}}}}}\\\\\\\ From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Tue Apr 27 21:41:33 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA12872; Tue, 27 Apr 93 21:41:06 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from seas.smu.edu by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA12865; Tue, 27 Apr 93 21:41:05 -0400 Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.6) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 93 20:41 EDT Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.9) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 93 20:41 EDT Received: by letni.LoneStar.org (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.17.5 #17.11) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 93 20:20 CDT Received: by kf5iw.lonestar.org (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.2) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 93 10:47 CDT Received: by cmptrc.lonestar.org ([C] /\==/\ Smail3.1.27.1 #27.13) id m0nnr2o-0006bIC; Tue, 27 Apr 93 09:54 CDT Message-Id: From: Neal Howard Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs To: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 9:54:01 CDT In-Reply-To: <9304270304.AA08349@silver.lcs.mit.edu>; from "magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!analogue-request" at Apr 26, 93 11:04 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Status: OR > Someday I want to make a huge board (like 10 feet by 20 feet) and have > HUGE knobs for the 303 controls.. and then play a bassline in a rave and > let people jump up and turn the knobs... but this would require opening up > my 303, desoldering the pots, and then rebuilding it all vover againm, not to > mention making huge knobs and coming up with a control system.. > -john The oldest Peavey P.A. mixers had these giant ~2 1/2 inch diameter black bakelite knobs for volume controls that looked like the kind of knobs you'd see on laboratory control panels in old 1950's sci-fi movies. My friend who owns the JP-4 in which I added 7 extra banks of patch memory used one of these giant knobs for the volume control on the JP-4. I believe they are still available from Peavey for about a dollar each but you have to get them from the Peavey parts dept, as they don't sell them as a regularly marketed retail item. The music store I used to work in had a box of about 25 of these the last time I checked. Neal ============================================================================= Neal Howard '91 XLH-1200 DoD #686 CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX) doh #0000001200 |355o33| neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org Std disclaimer: My opinions are mine, not CompuTrac's. "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890) ============================================================================= From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Tue Apr 27 19:05:25 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA06513; Tue, 27 Apr 93 19:04:00 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from jerry.sal.wisc.edu by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA06508; Tue, 27 Apr 93 19:03:59 -0400 Received: by jerry.sal.wisc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA20713; Tue, 27 Apr 1993 18:03:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 18:03:48 -0500 From: rej@jerry.sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones) Message-Id: <9304272303.AA20713@jerry.sal.wisc.edu> To: GRAHAME@sask.usask.ca, analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs Status: OR John, Two words: dead fucking brilliant. -Randy From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Wed Apr 28 14:39:49 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA18103; Wed, 28 Apr 93 14:36:33 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from iscsvax.uni.edu by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA18092; Wed, 28 Apr 93 14:36:29 -0400 Received: from iscsvax.uni.edu by iscsvax.uni.edu (PMDF #3072 ) id <01GXJOKGEBIM8WX17G@iscsvax.uni.edu>; Wed, 28 Apr 1993 13:35:29 CST Date: 28 Apr 1993 13:35:29 -0600 (CST) From: FRESHLY OPENED GRAVE Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs To: cook@stout.atd.ucar.EDU Cc: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-Id: <01GXJOKGEL5C8WX17G@iscsvax.uni.edu> X-Envelope-To: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"cook@stout.atd.ucar.EDU" X-Vms-Cc: IN%"analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR Well, Does anyone have plans\ideas for making a MIDI ball? Where can you get the remote sensors that presumably send the MIDI messages? Build them? Robert Williams MANNA-MACHINE From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Wed Apr 28 13:12:34 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA12899; Wed, 28 Apr 93 13:11:23 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from ncar.ucar.edu by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA12891; Wed, 28 Apr 93 13:11:20 -0400 Received: from stout.atd.ucar.edu by ncar.ucar.EDU (5.65/ NCAR Central Post Office 03/11/93) id AA24567; Wed, 28 Apr 93 11:11:13 MDT Message-Id: <9304281711.AA25216@stout.atd.ucar.EDU> Received: from barleywine.atd.ucar.edu by stout.atd.ucar.EDU (5.65/ NCAR Mail Server 04/10/90) id AA25216; Wed, 28 Apr 93 11:11:11 MDT To: Seth Joshua Horvitz Cc: GRAHAME@sask.usask.ca, analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 27 Apr 1993 21:08:42 PDT." Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 11:11:10 -0600 From: Forrest Cook Status: OR The giant MIDI ball reminds me of the time I saw the "Flying Karamazov Brothers", a juggling/humor act made up of a bunch of college professors. All four guys put on MIDI helmets (wireless too) and when they clubbed themselves on the head with a juggling pin, the remote synth emitted a note. I think there were at least 2 or more notes per helmet. The best part was when they started playing BACH while juggling and bonking themselves on the head. Forrest Cook cook@stout.atd.ucar.edu WB0RIO {husc6|rutgers|ames|gatech}!ncar!stout!cook From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Tue Apr 27 13:17:00 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA14839; Tue, 27 Apr 93 13:16:32 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from stargate.jpl.nasa.gov by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA14827; Tue, 27 Apr 93 13:16:28 -0400 Received: by stargate.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (4.1/SMI-4.1+DXRm2.5) id AA00263; Tue, 27 Apr 93 10:11:05 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 10:11:05 PDT From: bryanc@stargate.jpl.nasa.gov (Bryan Campbell) Message-Id: <9304271711.AA00263@stargate.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> To: GRAHAME@sask.usask.ca, analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs Status: OR >Someday I want to make a huge board (like 10 feet by 20 feet) and have >HUGE knobs for the 303 controls.. and then play a bassline in a rave and >let people jump up and turn the knobs... but this would require opening up >my 303, desoldering the pots, and then rebuilding it all vover againm, not to >mention making huge knobs and coming up with a control system.. Heh, I've been thinking about this for a while too... Considering I cherish my 303, and would only open it to dust the thing with a diaper, the thought of getting a soldering iron anywhere near it makes me cringe. But the idea of audience interaction in acid-style music is very appealing. I was thinking about making a multi-servo remote controled "adapter" that would slide onto the row of knobs on the 303. You could then hook up a transmitter to any kind of potentiometer you wanted to use, and adjust the sounds remotely. It's probably more work than it's worth though. Who knows, maybe when I have a spare Saturday, i'll build the damn thing. Heh, I bet all the RC geeks would be jeleous... :) Bryan C. From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Mon Apr 26 23:06:32 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA14276; Mon, 26 Apr 93 23:04:43 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from SILVER.LCS.MIT.EDU by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA14268; Mon, 26 Apr 93 23:04:35 -0400 Received: by silver.lcs.mit.edu id AA08349; Mon, 26 Apr 93 23:04:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 23:04:20 -0400 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (free at last) Message-Id: <9304270304.AA08349@silver.lcs.mit.edu> To: GRAHAME@sask.usask.ca, analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Giant 303 knobs Status: OR Someday I want to make a huge board (like 10 feet by 20 feet) and have HUGE knobs for the 303 controls.. and then play a bassline in a rave and let people jump up and turn the knobs... but this would require opening up my 303, desoldering the pots, and then rebuilding it all vover againm, not to mention making huge knobs and coming up with a control system.. -john From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Wed Apr 28 22:27:49 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA10953; Wed, 28 Apr 93 22:27:26 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from sys1.unigate1.unisys.com by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA10948; Wed, 28 Apr 93 22:27:19 -0400 Received: from unislc.slc.unisys.com ([192.60.224.1]) by sys1.unigate1.unisys.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00678; Thu, 29 Apr 93 02:21:23 GMT Received: by unislc.slc.unisys.com (5.61/1.35) id AA21951; Wed, 28 Apr 93 20:27:00 -0600 From: brians@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Brian Sassone) Message-Id: <9304290227.AA21951@unislc.slc.unisys.com> Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs To: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Analogue List) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 20:26:59 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: <9304282220.AA29488@silver.lcs.mit.edu> from "give your body it's freedom" at Apr 28, 93 06:20:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 783 Status: OR > no man, we're talking about knobs that are oh, > 12-20 inches across.. :) Actually, when I first read this I envisioned knobs 4-5 ft in diameter. If they were mounted on a wall, more than just one or two people could twiddle them. Or you could have a maze of knobs placed horizontally on the floor that people could wander in and out of. Or how about MIDI trigger pads mounted in a section of the floor. Or a whole room lined with them along the wall. A whole interactive chill room.... -----------------------===<>===------------------------------------------ -bS "A happy face, brians@ios.convergent.com a funkin' bass, A lowly raver without a glowstick. for a loving race." ------------------------------------------===<>===----------------------- From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Wed Apr 28 21:56:07 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA09869; Wed, 28 Apr 93 21:55:34 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from netcom.netcom.com by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA09864; Wed, 28 Apr 93 21:55:33 -0400 Received: by netcom.netcom.com (5.65/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id AA03498; Wed, 28 Apr 93 18:55:48 -0700 From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay) Message-Id: <9304290155.AA03498@netcom.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs To: acid23@uclink.berkeley.edu (Seth Joshua Horvitz) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 18:55:46 PDT Cc: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Analogue Synth Mailing List) In-Reply-To: ; from "Seth Joshua Horvitz" at Apr 27, 93 9:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR >I've heard of something called a "midi ball" being used by local boys >TASTIBOX during their live shows. I guess it's something which gets >thrown out into the audience and has some control over the equipment, so >that the audience actually has something to do with the music being >produced. Maybe we could get one of these at a rave. Anyone know more >about it? It's not Tastibox, whoever THEY are; it's D'Cuckoo, the hottest bunch of pumped women playing homemade MIDI mallet controllers you ever saw in your LIFE. The MIDIBall is part of their stage show; it triggers samples and algorithmic rhythm changes when struck. It's HUGE, about eight feet across, and a lot of fun. Isaac Salzman and I had a grand time helping the crowd bat it around, the night I met the band for the first time. I'll always cherish that memory...Zak was dead a month later. |-< -- mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * metlay@netcom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was looking for you. But I couldn't find you. I was looking for you...... From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Wed Apr 28 18:23:30 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA00664; Wed, 28 Apr 93 18:20:21 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from SILVER.LCS.MIT.EDU by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA00655; Wed, 28 Apr 93 18:20:19 -0400 Received: by silver.lcs.mit.edu id AA29488; Wed, 28 Apr 93 18:20:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 18:20:12 -0400 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (give your body it's freedom) Message-Id: <9304282220.AA29488@silver.lcs.mit.edu> To: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org, smj@sdf.lonestar.org Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs Cc: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Status: OR no man, we're talking about knobs that are oh, 12-20 inches across.. :) BIG filter knobs. -john From analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Wed Apr 28 17:43:54 1993 Received: by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA28431; Wed, 28 Apr 93 17:41:08 -0400 Errors-To: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Sender: analogue-request@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Received: from usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu by quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA28426; Wed, 28 Apr 93 17:41:06 -0400 Received: from gatech.edu by usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu with SMTP (5.65b+ida+/CWRU-1.5.2-UUCPGW) id AA02126; Wed, 28 Apr 93 17:41:04 -0400 (from letni!sdf!smj@seas.smu.edu for analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) Received: from im4u.cs.utexas.edu by gatech with SMTP id AA08566 (5.65c/Gatech-10.0-IDA for ); Wed, 28 Apr 1993 17:42:21 -0400 Received: from deepthought.cs.utexas.edu by im4u.cs.utexas.edu (5.64/1.14/uucp) with SMTP id AA10082; Wed, 28 Apr 93 16:40:58 -0500 Received: from seas.smu.edu by deepthought.cs.utexas.edu (5.64/1.2/relay) with SMTP id AA17289; Wed, 28 Apr 93 16:41:16 -0500 Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.6) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 93 16:40 EDT Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.9) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 93 16:40 EDT Received: by letni.LoneStar.org (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.17.5 #17.11) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 93 15:00 CDT Received: by sdf.LoneStar.ORG (Smail3.1.25.1) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 93 08:32 CDT Message-Id: From: smj@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones) Subject: Re: Giant 303 knobs To: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 8:32:54 CDT Cc: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Neal Howard" at Apr 27, 93 9:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR > The oldest Peavey P.A. mixers had these giant ~2 1/2 inch diameter black > bakelite knobs for volume controls that looked like the kind of knobs you'd > see on laboratory control panels in old 1950's sci-fi movies. My friend who > owns the JP-4 in which I added 7 extra banks of patch memory used one of these > giant knobs for the volume control on the JP-4. I believe they are still > available from Peavey for about a dollar each but you have to get them from > the Peavey parts dept, as they don't sell them as a regularly marketed retail > item. The music store I used to work in had a box of about 25 of these the > last time I checked. those knobs are absolutely beautiful! the PERFECt gift idea for a friend with a six trak