From lhammond@sol.UVic.CATue Jul 25 09:25:17 1995 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:01:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Lorne Hammond To: SKstokes@aol.com Cc: Analogue@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Synare 3, Deltalab On Tue, 25 Jul 1995 SKstokes@aol.com wrote: > Howdy, looking for some info on the following pieces of gear. Most > importantly, how much they're worth. > > Synare 3: electronic drum pad Depends. I forget my model numbers. I used to use the Syndrum, the pie tin synth. (famous example found in Flipper's "Sex Bomb Baby" which still cracks me right up, RIP Bruce Loose). Great little drum with two oscillators and an LFO. Very deep bass. These could be hooked together with a cable harness to a box called the Brain, which was a sequencer. I think the 3 was an angled box (MS-20 shape but flatter) with sliders facing you and 4 x 3 pads. You put it on a snare or mike stand and the drum played it as an electronic part of the kit. No sequncer, I think. Keeping in mind I always buy/quote low if its for me, and I am no store/speculator etc. The drums are a bargain at $100 each, getting pricey at $200+. The 3 is an odd item, no MIDI, not that velocity sensitive, if at all (Or velocity sensitive for that period, a joke in the present sense of the word) but it is still a set of analogs triggered by drums (4 voice or 3), say $250-350 but hard to find a buyer for something like that. For example, if it isn't keyboard/voltage or MIDI controllable I usually pass. > > Deltalab, Acoustic computer No idea. Heard the name, but that's all. Lorne From chandler@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.usTue Jul 25 09:35:11 1995 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:24:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonic Fungi-ball To: Lorne Hammond Cc: SKstokes@aol.com, Analogue@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Synare 3, Deltalab On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Lorne Hammond wrote: > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 1995 SKstokes@aol.com wrote: > > > Howdy, looking for some info on the following pieces of gear. Most > > importantly, how much they're worth. > > > > Synare 3: electronic drum pad > Depends. I forget my model numbers. I used to use the Syndrum, the pie > tin synth. (famous example found in Flipper's "Sex Bomb Baby" which It's the Synare 3, yep. At least one of mine still has a manufacturer's sticker with that. > I think the 3 was an angled box (MS-20 shape but flatter) with sliders This is the Synare 1 I believe, partly due to having almost bought one (but finding out that the pads shared a common, single drum osc/filter arrangement), and partly from a 1978 Keyboard mag I have in which I saw a front view picture of it. Judging from the drumsticks in the picture, it looks to be about 9" high and 18" wide (like the keyboard I'm typing on probably) and had four pads on an angled shelf in front of the knob 'face'. David Chandler - chandler@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us (503)301-3011 grep -i casio goodwillbins >> mystudio ; grep -i atari goodwillbins >> mystudio ; From lx@fht.comTue Jul 25 13:06:59 1995 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 12:45:57 -0500 From: LX Rudis To: analogue heaven Subject: the straight poop on synares lorne spaketh: >I think the 3 was an angled box (MS-20 shape but flatter) with sliders >facing you and 4 x 3 pads. You put it on a snare or mike stand and the >drum played it as an electronic part of the kit. No sequncer, I think. no, my man. you are referring to the Synare, i believe unless the graphics on mine lie. Star Industries made the synare 2 as the first flying saucer pad, and the 3 is a flying saucer with a couple of hardwired presets and less wankability and a cheezy white rubber playing pad. ecch. there was a granddaddy synare with 16 pads and built in sequencer that the band "our daughter's wedding" used on stage (as well as the 4 pad original synare). Those in the know will remember that i modded my synare by popping out the dead rubber pads and circuitry and replacing them with proximity sensors thereby creating the world's first synAIRe! ...it really sucks, too. i gotta open it up and replace capacitors in the power supply, shield something or another, maybe even get the multimeter, parts box and fine microbrewed ale out for a fearsome modification session. it suxxx. >pricey at $200+. The 3 is an odd item, no MIDI, not that velocity >sensitive, if at all (Or velocity sensitive for that period, a joke in >the present sense of the word) but it is still a set of analogs triggered >by drums (4 voice or 3), say $250-350 but hard to find a buyer for it's one analog voice with a very bizarre ground/volt scheme to determine oscillator frequency and initiate trigger data. kinda an electronic monophonic marimba with three zones per pad for "velocity" it really sucks...oh did i mention how much it sucked? then again, first $250 takes it-you provide shipping...it sucks ;) >something like that. For example, if it isn't keyboard/voltage or MIDI >controllable I usually pass. really. it sucks. ....must say tho that the flying saucer synares are way cool-we had one over that had languished in it's cardboard box since being refurbished by Star many moons ago. boy was it cool! way mondo monstro bass. battery operated: no hummmm, no noise. muy quiet! crude and brutal but beautiful, too. ...the way you trigger it via sequencer is that it has an 1/8 jack for an external power supply-supplying it with a voltage causes it to trigger! you can plug and unplug the wall wart or i guess the "brain" thing lorne mentioned simply modulates the power to the disk...weeeeeeerrrd. good sounding box er disk though...it would be cool to use it in conjunction with a sampler to make synth tones...did i mention the BASSSSS...oh i did. hmm. now the Synaire...that sucks. did i mention that? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lx Rudis byte my shorts! 415.882.1730 Voice lx@fht.com Foley Hi-Tech 415.882.1733 Fax http://www.fht.com 185 Berry Street 415.882.1735 BBS ftp.fht.com San Francisco, CA 94107 http://www.fht.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |||||| \\\\\\ ////// |||||||| |||||| \\\\\\ ////// |||||||| |||||| \\\\\\////// |||||||| |||||| \\\\\///// |||||||| |||||| \\\///// |||||||| |||||| ////\// |||||||| |||||| /////\\\\ |||||||| |||||| //////\\\\\ ||||||||||||||||| ////// \\\\\\ |||||||| ||||||||||||||||| ////// \\\\\\ |||||||| ||||||||||||||||| ////// \\\\\\ |||||||| -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >lose the 24-line .sig you beanbag, .....Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dadadata@world.std.comTue Jul 25 17:03:20 1995 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 18:04:17 -0400 From: craig o'donnell To: analogue@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Synare III ...I think the 3 was an angled box (MS-20 shape but flatter) with sliders ...facing you and 4 x 3 pads. You put it on a snare or mike stand and the ...drum played it as an electronic part of the kit. No sequncer, I think. Properly, it's "III". It looks like a flying saucer, has a noise source, couple oscillators, AR, a filter and an LFO, is your basic "one-shot". The top is a rubber pad. The pickup is a speaker (!). I have one lurking in my basement. I imagine it would be possible to rig a trigger-in jack in lieu of the speaker. PAIA "TheDrum" is similar, but with a panel mount design and a piezo-puck sensor and a trigger-in. Have one of these too. Great analog kick drum sounds possible from this puppy. --- Craig O'Donnell Author, Cool Mac Sounds (Hayden 1994) ---